Michelle Obama revealed that TV host Ellen DeGeneres questioned her push-up technique after the former First Lady was challenged to a competition during a 2012 episode of the show. She opened up about their early relationship during an interview with comedian Amy Poehler on her podcast, IMO with Michelle Obama and Craig Robinson.

I’m on her show doing push-ups, and I did more push-ups than her, but she still says I didn’t go down all the way. Anatomically, I don’t think I can.”